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PostSubject: Leicester   Leicester EmptySat Dec 19, 2015 9:18 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Leicester   Leicester EmptySat Dec 19, 2015 10:00 pm

Blimey that slip must be doing the rounds massively on the social network. Saw it this morning.
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PostSubject: Re: Leicester   Leicester EmptySat Dec 19, 2015 10:52 pm

They were the same odds to win the title aswell.

Would be a cracking profit on betfair trading out on any market involving them at the start of the season.

I hope they can keep the momentum going after Christmas. Would be nice to see a new face in the top 5.
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PostSubject: Re: Leicester   Leicester EmptySat Dec 19, 2015 11:13 pm

This Leicester team also won 7 of their final 9 games last season. Their record since March is phenomenal. The spirit is the polar opposite of Chelsea under Jose. Ranieri's team would run through brick walls for him. Will be interesting if any big money offers come in for Vardy or Mahrez in January.
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PostSubject: Re: Leicester   Leicester EmptySun Dec 20, 2015 12:12 am

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This Leicester team also won 7 of their final 9 games last season. Their record since March is phenomenal. The spirit is the polar opposite of Chelsea under Jose. Ranieri's team would run through brick walls for him. Will be interesting if any big money offers come in for Vardy or Mahrez in January.
They don't have to sell though do they, they are a rich club and nobody's ones any serious business  in January.

Except us when we sell our best players to make mediocre accountants rich.
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PostSubject: Re: Leicester   Leicester EmptySun Dec 20, 2015 9:03 am

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This Leicester team also won 7 of their final 9 games last season. Their record since March is phenomenal. The spirit is the polar opposite of Chelsea under Jose. Ranieri's team would run through brick walls for him. Will be interesting if any big money offers come in for Vardy or Mahrez in January.
They don't have to sell though do they, they are a rich club and nobody's ones any serious business  in January.

Except us when we sell our best players to make mediocre accountants rich.

Leicester, regardless of their great start, are a minnow in the Prem. If the agents of Vardy or Mahrez let them know a big club is in for them and they'll quadruple their wages, we'll see what happens. It happens at far far bigger clubs than Leicester. Spurs for example, routinely lose their top players to the elite clubs. The one trump card Leicester have mind, is if somehow Ranieri can convince them the team is actually capable of winning the league, which would of course be comfortably the biggest sensation in the history of English football, ever.
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PostSubject: Re: Leicester   Leicester EmptySun Dec 20, 2015 9:59 am

Bastards, i hope vardy and mahrez have £6m buyouts in their contracts !!!
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PostSubject: Re: Leicester   Leicester EmptySun Dec 20, 2015 11:41 am

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Leicester, regardless of their great start, are a minnow in the Prem. If the agents of Vardy or Mahrez let them know a big club is in for them and they'll quadruple their wages, we'll see what happens. It happens at far far bigger clubs than Leicester. Spurs for example, routinely lose their top players to the elite clubs. The one trump card Leicester have mind, is if somehow Ranieri can convince them the team is actually capable of winning the league, which would of course be comfortably the biggest sensation in the history of English football, ever.

Hold your horses! Clough's Forest and Derby, Dalgleish's Blackburn, Ipswich in the early 60's. These were all shocks.

There was life before the Premier League you know.

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PostSubject: Re: Leicester   Leicester EmptySun Dec 20, 2015 11:48 am

Blackburn spent a fortune at the time.
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PostSubject: Re: Leicester   Leicester EmptySun Dec 20, 2015 12:08 pm

Would love to see Leicester win the Premier League. Would be a stupendous achievement. Still very unlikely but yesterday's win against Everton is a pretty impressive result. Half-expected them to beat Chelsea but Everton at Goodison somehow seemed tougher.

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PostSubject: Re: Leicester   Leicester EmptySun Dec 20, 2015 12:09 pm

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Blackburn spent a fortune at the time.

Yep, the original Premier League money men - they bought the title and were nothing like Forest etc
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PostSubject: Re: Leicester   Leicester EmptySun Dec 20, 2015 12:34 pm

It really is a breath of fresh air to see so called smaller clubs such as Leicester, Palace, Watford, Bournemouth and Naaaaaarich flying high and playing exciting, attacking football. The most hotly contested PL for a good while.
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PostSubject: Re: Leicester   Leicester EmptySun Dec 20, 2015 1:10 pm

As always the status quo will return late in the season ..... Happy to be proved wrong but the big sides will occupy top 4 as usual.
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PostSubject: Re: Leicester   Leicester EmptySun Dec 20, 2015 1:18 pm

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As always the status quo will return late in the season ..... Happy to be proved wrong but the big sides will occupy top 4 as usual.


You don't think Leicester will finish in the top four raised eyebrow
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PostSubject: Re: Leicester   Leicester EmptySun Dec 20, 2015 1:20 pm

Rollo Tomasi wrote:
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Leicester, regardless of their great start, are a minnow in the Prem. If the agents of Vardy or Mahrez let them know a big club is in for them and they'll quadruple their wages, we'll see what happens. It happens at far far bigger clubs than Leicester. Spurs for example, routinely lose their top players to the elite clubs. The one trump card Leicester have mind, is if somehow Ranieri can convince them the team is actually capable of winning the league, which would of course be comfortably the biggest sensation in the history of English football, ever.

Hold your horses! Clough's Forest and Derby, Dalgleish's Blackburn, Ipswich in the early 60's. These were all shocks.

There was life before the Premier League you know.


None of those titles would come even remotely close to a Leicester team, bottom of the Prem this time last year, out-pointing United, City, and Arsenal over the course of 38 games.

Just to give it a bit more perspective, Aston Villa are a mere 500/1 odds NOW to finish in the top 4. TEN TIMES shorter odds than the 10,000/1 you could have got at the start of  the season on Leicester winning the league. And I doubt you'd find many people who'd disagree that it'd be a tad on the sensational side if Villa were to grab a Champions League spot from their current position.


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PostSubject: Re: Leicester   Leicester EmptySun Dec 20, 2015 1:27 pm

Les Miserable wrote:
Elias wrote:
As always the status quo will return late in the season ..... Happy to be proved wrong but the big sides will occupy top 4 as usual.


You don't think Leicester will finish in the top four raised eyebrow

Be interesting to see how theyll be removed, will the prem lge allow big fish to effectively drown ?
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PostSubject: Re: Leicester   Leicester EmptySun Dec 20, 2015 1:49 pm

Czarcasm wrote:
Hugh Watt wrote:
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This Leicester team also won 7 of their final 9 games last season. Their record since March is phenomenal. The spirit is the polar opposite of Chelsea under Jose. Ranieri's team would run through brick walls for him. Will be interesting if any big money offers come in for Vardy or Mahrez in January.
They don't have to sell though do they, they are a rich club and nobody's ones any serious business  in January.

Except us when we sell our best players to make mediocre accountants rich.

Leicester, regardless of their great start, are a minnow in the Prem. If the agents of Vardy or Mahrez let them know a big club is in for them and they'll quadruple their wages, we'll see what happens. It happens at far far bigger clubs than Leicester. Spurs for example, routinely lose their top players to the elite clubs. The one trump card Leicester have mind, is if somehow Ranieri can convince them the team is actually capable of winning the league, which would of course be comfortably the biggest sensation in the history of English football, ever.

Regardless of their status, the days when the likes of Leicester being bullied into selling are gone. Take Chelsea's attempts to unsettle stones, even Everton are wealthy enough to avoid cashing in. Let's not forget Leicester are run by a very rich man, hardly any of the premier league clubs these days do business with each other the value isn't there
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PostSubject: Re: Leicester   Leicester EmptySun Dec 20, 2015 1:50 pm

Elias wrote:
Les Miserable wrote:
Elias wrote:
As always the status quo will return late in the season ..... Happy to be proved wrong but the big sides will occupy top 4 as usual.


You don't think Leicester will finish in the top four raised eyebrow

Be interesting to see how theyll be removed, will the prem lge allow big fish to effectively drown ?


More conspiracy theories..........tighten up Elias!
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PostSubject: Re: Leicester   Leicester EmptySun Dec 20, 2015 1:56 pm

I would love to see leicester win the league but i dont think they will, i also think Chelsea will finish above them. Arsenals title for me.
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PostSubject: Re: Leicester   Leicester EmptySun Dec 20, 2015 5:02 pm

Innocent Egbunike wrote:
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Blackburn spent a fortune at the time.

Yep, the original Premier League money men - they bought the title and were nothing like Forest etc

The total cost of their team amounted to £14.7 million. United's were £19.3 million.

They wisely spent a large amount on two forwards and a keeper.

There entire back four cost less than Newcastle paid for Darren Peacock.

The midfield four cost less than Leeds paid for Carlton Palmer.

Which suggests that Dalglish understood what football in those days was all about. Scoring goals and stopping goals.

It's interesting that today's stats are all about possession. Leicester are being outplayed in most games yet are top of the league.

Blackburn did spend a lot but in the right positions.



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PostSubject: Re: Leicester   Leicester EmptySun Dec 20, 2015 5:46 pm

Hugh Watt wrote:
Czarcasm wrote:
Hugh Watt wrote:
Czarcasm wrote:
This Leicester team also won 7 of their final 9 games last season. Their record since March is phenomenal. The spirit is the polar opposite of Chelsea under Jose. Ranieri's team would run through brick walls for him. Will be interesting if any big money offers come in for Vardy or Mahrez in January.
They don't have to sell though do they, they are a rich club and nobody's ones any serious business  in January.

Except us when we sell our best players to make mediocre accountants rich.

Leicester, regardless of their great start, are a minnow in the Prem. If the agents of Vardy or Mahrez let them know a big club is in for them and they'll quadruple their wages, we'll see what happens. It happens at far far bigger clubs than Leicester. Spurs for example, routinely lose their top players to the elite clubs. The one trump card Leicester have mind, is if somehow Ranieri can convince them the team is actually capable of winning the league, which would of course be comfortably the biggest sensation in the history of English football, ever.

Regardless of their status, the days when the likes of Leicester being bullied into selling are gone. Take Chelsea's attempts to unsettle stones, even Everton are wealthy enough to avoid cashing in. Let's not forget Leicester are run by a very rich man, hardly any of the premier league clubs these days do business with each other the value isn't there

Spot on Hugh,a very rich man who as stated if needed we have a £180M kitty for the January window.
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PostSubject: Re: Leicester   Leicester EmptySun Dec 20, 2015 7:36 pm

Rollo Tomasi wrote:
Innocent Egbunike wrote:
Elias wrote:
Blackburn spent a fortune at the time.

Yep, the original Premier League money men - they bought the title and were nothing like Forest etc

The total cost of their team amounted to £14.7 million. United's were £19.3 million.

They wisely spent a large amount on two forwards and a keeper.

There entire back four cost less than Newcastle paid for Darren Peacock.

The midfield four cost less than Leeds paid for Carlton Palmer.

Which suggests that Dalglish understood what football in those days was all about. Scoring goals and stopping goals.

It's interesting that today's stats are all about possession. Leicester are being outplayed in most games yet are top of the league.

Blackburn did spend a lot but in the right positions.




Fair enough, good stats - but let's not pretend that Blackburn would have been anywhere near the league title - or the top flight - without Walker's money. Forest, Derby, Ipswich were much bigger shocks than Blackburn
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PostSubject: Re: Leicester   Leicester EmptySun Dec 20, 2015 8:09 pm

Ipswich ?? Runners up 61 and 81 ?????
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PostSubject: Re: Leicester   Leicester EmptySun Dec 20, 2015 8:23 pm

Not sure what you mean? All I know is that they first division champions in the 1961/62 season.

They were second for two years running in the early eighties.
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PostSubject: Re: Leicester   Leicester EmptySun Dec 20, 2015 10:32 pm

Rollo talking lots of sense on this thread. Pretty sure Ipswich under Ramsey won the Div 1 (proper) title in their first season after promotion. If that isn't a shock I don't know what is.

The talk of "Blackburn bought the title" is utter rot. Well they did but EVERYBODY buys the title. Blackburn's huge investment was just in a shorter period of time, that's all. Man C is the title buying equivalent now but they have years and years to catch up on compared to  their city rivals. That sort of talk is just silly: it's the established super powers ring-fencing their super poweredness.

Football thrives on competition but clubs thrive on dominance from whence comes eternal conflict.

The way clubs like Blackburn or Chelsea or Man City sink vast sums into their teams is sickening and inflationary but if they don't then we see 20 years of dominance like Shankly/Paisley/Dalglish Liverpool of old or Ferguson's United more recently.

I suspect that Leicester's budget shrinks into insignificance compared to Chelsea's but no matter how you cut it a great team will always beat great individuals; this may be Leicester's chance much more than vast spending might be.
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