Ukraine

Russia was never going to invade Ukraine it never even came close. It was a ploy which the west fell for and Putin got his message to them that he doesnt want a nato country on his boarder and now he probably succeeded with that.

Freathy wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Freathy wrote:

This has certainly shown Bozo and the UK are no longer taken at all seriously internationally.

Of course Cameron or May would have sent Vlad packing immediately. That must be a wind up shorely? We should keep our noses firmly out of all this shite no way do I want anyone volunteering my boys to go and sort out any problems caused by war mongering wanker like Putin.

That's what I mean.  We are not a world power and should not be strutting around the international stage making absolute dicks of ourselves.  We should keep out of crap like this. Shame no-ones told Bozo and those very low grade defence and foreign secretaries of his who are laughably trying act all tough with Putin.  Putin has played the west like an absolute violin and that includes Dementia Joe in the Whitehouse.

Ok so when did we last have a PM who was taken seriously on the world stage? I mean surely not since Churchill and even then we needed the Yanks and the Russians to finish off the Germans. Previous to that it would have been in the 1800's when Brittania really did rule the waves. I think the B word is still clouding your judgement.

Britain could never act alone, ever.  Some may point to the Falklands but Argentina's armed forces then were very poor and very underequipped.   But the UK is more insignificant and irrelevant than ever now.  No more interfering in other countries problems that have absolutely nothing to do with us like Bozo thinks we can even though successive useless tory governments have made so many cuts to the UKs armed forces that there's hardly anything left now.  Only time the UK should act now is if a NATO country is invaded and all NATO countries armed forces are mobilised.  Even then we'd be useless.

Freathy wrote:

Britain could never act alone, ever.  Some may point to the Falklands but Argentina's armed forces then were very poor and very underequipped.   But the UK is more insignificant and irrelevant than ever now.  No more interfering in other countries problems that have absolutely nothing to do with us like Bozo thinks we can even though successive useless tory governments have made so many cuts to the UKs armed forces that there's hardly anything left now.  Only time the UK should act now is if a NATO country is invaded and all NATO countries armed forces are mobilised.  Even then we'd be useless.

I broadly agree with all you say although I'd love to see you slag off our armed forces to any marines let alone special forces, still some of the best in the world.

Ukrainian refugees will flood to the west if and when Mr Putin orders his forces into Ukraine. That will add extra pressure to proceedings.

So now Boris is pleading for 'an overwhelming display of western solidarity'.

He doesn't do irony then.

It is embarrassing for us as a country to have a PM who is regarded as a clown on the world stage. If anyone is going to do or say the wrong thing that could tip Europe into war, it's him.
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Freathy wrote:

Britain could never act alone, ever.  Some may point to the Falklands but Argentina's armed forces then were very poor and very underequipped.   But the UK is more insignificant and irrelevant than ever now.  No more interfering in other countries problems that have absolutely nothing to do with us like Bozo thinks we can even though successive useless tory governments have made so many cuts to the UKs armed forces that there's hardly anything left now.  Only time the UK should act now is if a NATO country is invaded and all NATO countries armed forces are mobilised.  Even then we'd be useless.

they wouldnt be going it alone with russia ever not under any circumstance in anycase why would they thats a rather silly suggestion to make.

PlymptonPilgrim wrote:

So now Boris is pleading for 'an overwhelming display of western solidarity'.

He doesn't do irony then.

It is embarrassing for us as a country to have a PM who is regarded aa a clown on the world stage. If anyone is going to do or say the wrong thing that could tip Europe into war, it's him.
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there is a president worse than him doing a good job of making himself look a complete idiot on the world stage too hence why Putin is playing with them both and nato is shit without those two being strong.

Angry wrote:

PlymptonPilgrim wrote:

So now Boris is pleading for 'an overwhelming display of western solidarity'.

He doesn't do irony then.

It is embarrassing for us as a country to have a PM who is regarded aa a clown on the world stage. If anyone is going to do or say the wrong thing that could tip Europe into war, it's him.
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there is a president worse than him doing a good job of making himself look a complete idiot on the world stage too hence why Putin is playing with them both and nato is shit without those two being strong.

Luckily the rest of the world do not view Brexit like a few on here do, you will only see the laughing stock comments on social media as far as I can see the rest of the world is literally dying to live here. Literally.

Angry wrote:

putin will do what he likes biden too weak and incompetent to even try going up against him and when he has china as an allie he could reform the soviet union without so much as a bullet fired.

No surprise there though even though His made some reforms in Russia ..but at the end of the day his very much still a hardliner from that soviet period

Putin will fight a war with the west by proxy in that he will and is funding the Russian fighters in Donetsk and Luhansk, the Ukrainian separatists will gain their territories and Boris will be able to do fook all about it. Laughing stock, UK bad EU good ECT ECT.

James Cleverly: "Russian invasion of Ukraine 'very, very likely and very, very imminent"

Imminent, very imminent, now very very imminent - and, very very likely Never a jizz-fest has been had by MSM and politicians since Doris hid away in a fridge.

Mr Putin will give the nod to Donetsk and Lugansk being sovereign states.

He's on now, blaming Ukraine so far

Ukraine a laughing stock to the rest of the world ever since splitting from Russia, the sooner they are reunited the better.

VillageGreen wrote:

Mr Putin will give the nod to Donetsk and Lugansk being sovereign states.

Once old Vlad gives the nod to Donetsk and Lugansk, It gives Russia a reason to go help the rebels (replace 'rebels' with Russian soldiers') in those breakaway regions, just like they did years ago in Crimea. The ‘poor rebels’ are being shelled by ‘Ukrainian forces’ as we speak according to Russian Media - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand that's the excuse old Vlad needs to go wading in.

I am an undercover Ukrainian separatist rebel, and I claim my 25 roubles.

if bond wasnt getting so woke these says this might make a good movie to start the new guy off lol

Don't need to nip down to lidl to stock up on tinned foods then.
proper job

Jethro wrote:

Don't need to nip down to lidl to stock up on tinned foods then.
proper job

Pfft. It's 2022 mate. Expect the unexpected. The world's gone mad.

Angry wrote:

Russia was never going to invade Ukraine it never even came close. It was a ploy which the west fell for and Putin got his message to them that he doesnt want a nato country on his boarder and now he probably succeeded with that.

Russia has now invaded Ukraine.

POI wrote:

VillageGreen wrote:

Mr Putin will give the nod to Donetsk and Lugansk being sovereign states.

Once old Vlad gives the nod to Donetsk and Lugansk, It gives Russia a reason to go help the rebels (replace 'rebels' with Russian soldiers') in those breakaway regions, just like they did years ago in Crimea. The ‘poor rebels’ are being shelled by ‘Ukrainian forces’ as we speak according to Russian Media - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand that's the excuse old Vlad needs to go wading in.

I am an undercover Ukrainian separatist rebel, and I claim my 25 roubles.

Old Vlad has copied the west as in he isn't invading he has installed a "peace keeping force", bless him, we had him wrong all the time. I bet if you looked back to 2014 you would hear all the same old rhetoric and all the same posturing and talk of terrible sanctions that you heard when he took the Crimea. I'm guessing we won't stop using their gas and the gas makes us more reliant on them than they are on us, what a fooking mess.

Putin was sounding unhinged during his rant yesterday.

Which is worrying.

PlymptonPilgrim wrote:

Putin was sounding unhinged during his rant yesterday.

Which is worrying.

Not wrong there. He has lost the plot now.

Doris has him literally pooping his pants with the sanctions he has announced.

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